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i like the effects of the *ek hem* push up *cough* bra..
i like Valerie too, at first i'm wondering y she's in...but now i know.
after the makeover etc, she's really stunning~
Ei us tell what country ur going ler....
but most people, even regular readers, don't know that. Every blogger has his/her own reason for writing a product review and we can't assume everyone writes for the same reason, which is why a disclaimer helps clarify things. It might be a petty issue but when you really think about it, your blog credibility is somewhat affected by this (i mean we all get worked up when the media says blogs are not real journalism).
Now that we know pinkpau 'won't review something unless she actually likes it', it helps to clear the air. But we can't carry the same assumption to other blogs. Which is why it's more of a blogger courtesy to put forth such words when reviewing products :).
Why you put the photo of yourself eating Maggi Cup noodle? How much did Maggi Cup noodle pay you wtf.
And most importantly...
Why you keep writing about the OPPOSITION!??!?! HOW MUCH DID DAP PAY YOU!?!?!? HAR? HAR? HAR? HAR?
(Funny that when I did an interview with a BN rep, everyone asked me how much they paid me. And when I published my interview with a DAP rep, everyone goes "Hidup DAP!")
hurm when i first realised you were writing about the mudah website i also began to think the same way as those people but then in the end i don't care! it is the blogger's right to blog what they want (albeit got some limit lah). at least you make effort to make sure your advertorials are not boring :D
and i have no fave on msian dreamgirls so far.
I like Fiqa as well! So she's Malay-Chinese? But I've only watched some snippets of the episodes...I find the girls' reactions a little "fake" (choreographed?) sometimes (in fact I even wrote up a rant about that)
hope the saturday went well :)
haha i've been following MDG too.. I guess my favourites are Jean (too bad she pulled out), Natasha (can anyone tell me what mixed ethnicity is she of? Natasha Rose Boudville or something like that - sounds a bit french, Valerie (so cute gosh) and Ringo (because I'm a cheeserland follower haha and because I think she really does model well)
Must say I am not very fond of Hanis (whiny, whimpery) and Cindy (too eager to be hiaw) heh.
But that's just me :)
The very concept is foreign to me.
Enjoy your trip.
and gosh.. how cna you forget to eat!?!?!
You said you were going to write 1 paragraph on the advertorial thingy only!!!
I feel so cheated! :P
On camera she doesn't speak much one. Off camera.... Phwoar.
Worse than Adeline.
although i am slightly disappointed that pau doesnt see this issue in such black and white as I do. You accept money to write something, how can you not see such obvious conflict of interest? You know i believe you when you said you write with truth and passion in mind. But that's like a menteri accepting money from a contractor and still insist that the tender will be open and fair to all bidders. Why waste so much effort trying to make us believe you will be fair when all you have to do is to show a bit more transparency.
I dont think i am overreacting (sadly) and i dont want to make too many assumptions about you on this issue because we havent really talk about it (of all the naughty things we chat about.... -_-). But i afraid principles and ethics are not something we can cherrypick on to suit our convenience. You brush this off in such nonchalant manner i afraid the next time you complain about nepotism and corruption in our society i will have a hard time finishing the entire entry. (of course, not that that should ever be your concern)
hey, have a good trip ok! would love to know where u're going too! =)
but then again i dont really care la coz i can always ask you hehe
ultimately this is your blog, so yeah.
where are you going har
weird person, this alvin. But then again we are all entitled to our own opinion and who are we to complain that bloggers should do THIS and write THAT and add THIS.
it's up to the blogger to state whether she.he wants to say if it's an advertorial or not. because THE BLOG BELONGS TO HER/HIM. -__-
yeah, got some issue on the adverts thingie, sigh. ah well duwan to say anything la after i write whole stupid paragraph wtf la. whatever it is it's gonna be there, read or don't read it lor if ppl dun like.
and where are u going! aih this weekend is perfect timing to go holiday (holiday tomorrow, off friday, syok 5 days!) but unfortunately no one to bring :(
And how can you not eat for 2 days!! My stomach protests even if I go without one meal, heh.
Haha, why kennysia can bitch about the contestants wan. I LOVEEEE Fiqa's new hair! Le sigh. But my fave is Valerie, ya la ya la I want short girls to win wtf.
In fact, the clear demarcation of advertisements is a common thread among standards of journalistic standards world wide.
Anyway, you may not agree with it and that is your prerogative as this is your platform, but to label people who point is out as being petty is a step down the slippery slope of corruption.
I remember you writing about change and wanting to see our society progress further. Remember that integrity starts with all of us and it really is about the little things we do.
O.O!!!
ya lah yalah everybody in the world looks like me wtf. i like Valerie, she has VERY unique looks and i loved her afro..... T____T
I think what PinkPau was mainly trying to point out in her message is; YOU got YOUR way of doing things, SHE got HERs, why is it bothering YOU so much that SHE's not doing things the same way as YOU do? =p Everyone thinks and acts differently. Its in this sense that she meant it to be very petty. Learn to live your OWN life, and not others for them. =p Technically, her personal choices shouldn't affect u in any way.
Things like this don't happen only in blogs lar. I for instance am quite involved in the whole "car modification" scenes, where i drive an ah beng loud car zooming here and there... and am quite known to give good advice in how to do up ur car, so yeah, many people do come to me for advice...
So what happens when u're that known... you do get companies and workshops actually approaching you for sponsorship. Giving u sponsorship in terms of money, services or product to go out and help spread their name =p coz' they know how influential you can be. You don't see me driving around with my car full of stickers saying "i'm sponsored by so and so and so". =p Only unless when I join races or lend my car as a demo for a roadshows, then yes, those are times when its full of stickers lar. =p Coz' a lot of people will take photos wan ma. =p
I believe PinkPau and I think the same way, I would only take in sponsorship that I myself WOULD personally recommend to others. It maintains your credibility. Not everything's about money... I can afford my own modifications, but its still great to have sponsorships dropping by every once in a while. =)
I feel the character development for each contestant in the show not very good. Some scenes look so fake summore... =p
Flying off to another country again!!!
Remember to get some souvenirs for us hardcore readers-cum-fans leh...
About the advertorial thing, I honestly think that it is not necessary to put up statement to hint that this is actually an advertisement. Like, I do reviews on restaurants too but really, no one really cares if you get paid or not, like you said.
I mean, just do what you like. Devil may care!
just letting u know that i LOVEEE pods too!! and you can get it now here in Malaysia @ any cold storage outlet....
btw, my fav is Valerie because of her transformation and style. cool and sexy haha
Woh, after a busy week, going for vacation now, so jealous. Somemore so secretive about the location
Enjoy your vacation.
When you buy a ticket to go watch a movie in the cinema, do you really want somebody standing at the door to tell you "Eh, this movie is fake one har. Looks real only, but acherly is fake one."
Do you want movie makers to do that? Just to be "ethical"? It ruins the mood of the viewers.
Same thing with blog entries. Outright stating if an entry is an advertorial or not ruins the entire flow of a blog entry. Blogging is no less a form of art than it is journalism. It tells a story from the blogger's personal experiences. And you can't fake personal experiences.
The beauty about the world wide web is that everyone is different and everyone sets their own rules. Each blogger sets his/her own law about how they want things to be "governed" on their own blog, in their own way.
Dun worry about the advertising there ... just give them a piece of your mind!!!
i smell jealousy somewhere?
p/s: hey there's a smiley on the bottom of your page!
Be very careful of old aunties stealing your money. There was once I was there, this old grandmother ask me to buy sweet potatoes from her, gave her money but she refused to give me back my change. Anyway you'll have lots of blast there but just be careful of your surroundings.
Faster make your trip to UK lar. Then I have an excuse to go to Harrods to eat expensive chocolates. =P
When you wrote the LipIce ad, I kept wondering whether you were being paid for it. Even if its just to satisfy our curiosity, for "ethical reasons", or whatever, very hard to just tell us that its an advertorial meh?
funny lah u, michbaby and skybaby wtfwtf
alvin : ah yes it's a courtesy, not an obligation :)
kennysia : KENNY SIA DONT BE BIASED i am so disappointed in you i used to like your blog but now im never going to read you anymore !!!!1111
pinksterz : thank you :) i really do put in time and effort to make my advertorials nice to read.
wp : yes exactly! i dont want to put it up there to deter people because i really do spend a lot of time thinking up nice angles for my advertorials T____T yeah good point about the bottom line. will take into consideration :)
tara : oh it did :))) how is london!! eh imma add you on fbook now
carol : ahh thank you for understanding about the advertorial issue :) eh actually hanis is so unpretentious to me, that's why i like her. very cute and not fake at all. her datin comment was sooooo adorable i just had to laugh. cindy has a strange accent right?! about the forgetting to eat.. YES i cant believe it's happening to me too. i usually have lunch/dinner with people, but this week has been so busy that i havent been seeing anyone at all. hence no opportunity to eat :P
cher wee : thank you so much :))
sandra : i actually have had only 2? or 3 advertorials on my blog so far. haha but i'm glad to hear you like reading my advertorials :))
KY : HAHA yayaya that's what i was thinking when i hit the Publish button LOL
sharon : she's very cool right! cant wait for the next episode. wanna see who's the first to be eliminated
ping : yesyes i cant wait to blog too :D
jessi : ooh! do you know which specific euro ethnicity?
kenny sia : are you serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZOMG
alvin : eh i swear i wrote my earlier reply to you without reading your this comment first. haha yes yes it is a courtesy, not an obligation, and i think my reasons to hold back from this courtesy are quite valid. aiyah puppy you know i luv you to itty bitty bits!! lemme think about this a bit more, then we discuss this over msn, yes :)
suanie & carolyn : VERY NICE WAN I SHOW YOU!! over here
reallybites : ultimately i think that if a lot of my friends and readers preferred me to disclose that it's an advertorial, i would. it's just all this stupid annoying whingers that tak kena mengena with my blog that annoy me when they try to draw all kinds of conclusions about my credibility and so on. can accuse me of lying some more just because i was paid for a post. damn stupid.
michelle : michbaby i luv u!
sm : SNICKERS!!!!!!!!! *heart
chris : yalar i read from there wan that's why i blogged abt it :P aiyah we all have our opinions about this right! eh catch u on msn, wanna tok to u abt something!
huiwen : trust me i never knew i was capable of forgetting to eat either T___T its just that all my meals are spent eating out with people, and now that i'm busy and am refusing to see ppl until i get all my work sorted out, i just kinda forget to eat. wtf damn stupid. haha yalar this kenny damn evil wan. mamak stall tablecloth -_______-
nicholas c : thank you, very good points brought up :) i still think that the specific people complaining about this are petty, because they are petty people (and these are specific individuals) and drama-mongering, but i am giving this issue more thought now :) yup my prerogative, but i would not go out of my way to be discourteous just because i have a right to. thank you for your comment! i believe your first paragraph was truncated tho.
alea : eh but her new hair nice wat! no lah you dont look like fiqa!
therealanon : alvin will you please be my spokesperson!!! why do you say everything i wanna say so much more eloquently!
porcupine : but how to pass to everyone !!!
michelle c : ya i dont think its relevant at all to say whether or not it's an advertorial. AHHH pods.. :) you are in the best country to find them. click here!
chm : yes i got Martian to take care of me now :D
nissy : WE CAN?!?!?!?!?!
grace : i didnt think i was capable of it either :P but it just happens cos i'm busy and have to spend my dinner/lunchtimes rushing everything i have to do
ront : it's the same for the other girls' pictures too!
dawn : i wish =(
noob : there are two bloggers hired officially to cover the show, and i am one of them :) yes it's our right to disclose whether or not a certain post is an advertorial, and yes again it is also about courtesy. some clients actually tell us that we can write constructive criticism if we so wish, so it's not that bad :) they dont force us to write things we do not want. and if it's going to be a bad review, we may as well not write about it. why give a bad product free publicity?
simon seow : first day of holiday so far! :) enjoying it !
miss p : oh i think you need to have a facebook account to see tthe note :\
kennysia : i totally agree about the flow thing. but eh how ah if we were to put the sentence at the end of the post? do you think its anticlimatic?
pinkshirtz : if she went thru with the show, means she cannot sit for finals? why would she consent to joining the show in the first place then?
michael : *giggle* this is what a lot of us have agreed upon, for certain individuals :P
steven : haha sazzy is the show's host! she's in there wat. but weirdly, she doesnt turn up very often
anon : im glad someone likes hanis !!! :D i like her cos she's so unpretentious :)
julz : eh so far the people here very nice. HOW YOU KNOW WHERE I AM WAN !!!!
anti : haha i'm glad someone asked me this. no, it's not very hard to type 'this is an advertorial' at the start, but i still think the reasons for having that sentence are so flimsy, and this is at the expense of ruining my entire post and its flow and message. i suppose i just have to collect readers opinions and then make a decision about it :) so far most people dont even care if i'm being paid.. they read the post anyway. only the petty people who get all stressed out about which blogger is making money are the ones making noise.. :)
kimberly : and i paid kimberlycun for the sidebar link!!!
wenqi : sigh what to do ... 'nuffnang girls' are like this wan..
iamdoryfish : yes correct!! the snickers ones are the best, and the only ones i buy. i wrote about them once, click here to read!
i like your post that doesn't looks like an advertorial and makes me enjoy more about it. especially the lip gloss entry!!
hu cares about being paid lar...its important 4 you to actually gives out the message about the product or stuff that v must know about it.
but i dun get it why all ppl are making such big fuss over that advertorial line.
i read michelle's post:
"First it was Mudah and now Lipice. Eh. Bloggers write reviews ALL THE TIME. You go to Red Box, you write about it. REVIEW. You watch a movie, your write about it. REVIEW ALSO. You eat at Jogoya, you write about it. REVIEW ALSO WHAT! What does it matter if it's paid or not paid!"
so i replied:
Sorry, i just had to comment on what you wrote. There *is* a difference. Bloggers go to a restaurant, they review. They go to whatever la, yeah they review. And what do they write? good things. and bad things.
with paid advertorials, the clients will never allow something negative to be noted. never. hence, it's paid. they get to choose the end draft that goes up.
if the blogger wasn't paid of it and just sent products, then it can be considered a review cos that's what it is.
so you see, there *is* a difference between a paid post and one that isn't.
i wrote about it a few months back
http://www.kinkybluefairy.net/2007/12/11/the-wo...
Take care of yourself babe - what will happen if you get an ulcer? And make sure Martian takes good care of you, although it sounds like he's already doing that haha =)
ps: About the whole LipIce thingy, I think it's a storm in a teacup really. I admit I was a little surprised when I finished reading a post AND THEN realised it was an advertorial, but really, what of it?
Because: 1. It was well written, as always 2. Like you said, you only chose to write about products you like and already use (case in point: those pictures of you using LipIce were taken before you were offered the opportunity to write about the product, I presume?) 3. If there had been something about LipIce you did NOT like, I am assuming you would have been frank enough to be upfront about it?
So no worries babe and have a great time wherever you're going! I'm looking forward to a travel post already, complete with those lovely pics you always take =)
but then I am not the most perasan one hurr hurr hurr :D
AND, Cindy is such a fake (seeing her on cam la). Behind cam, she MAY be a sweet nice innocent helpful girl. But still, not may fav.
Eyna & Fiqa, i like! i hope the results do not turn out like Malaysian Idol 2. So vote for the ones you think should win ppl!
*im sorry i have to post this here. i cant seem to find a MalaysianDreamgirl Forum or something :(
"...seen as an encroachment on ones OBJECTIVITY."
sorry! :D
i'm that angel from the taylor's halloween party '07 btw :)
i saw pods in cold storage, subang parade!
hope that information is helpful :D
now you don't have to be in singapore or australia or wherever to get them :)
hurray for pods!
YES u can get pods at cold storage in malaysia.
i've seen it in the klcc branch :D
Jean, oh my pair of jeans....
And it was expensive hehe
Anyway, where you are is like miles away from me :( I think. Look up the map!
too bad she quit...
but good for her too, she got better future if she do well in her current career.
among the chinese Model, she the most natural, tough n inteligent..
*pops champaign*
LoL... call u when I get back!
i msged u my number just in case okie...
Hey by the way, were you ever in your college's student council?
why u chickened out las year...
haha congrats being in the semi finals...errr...as said in star
She was my fav as well.
But I guess it is not the end of the world by pulling out of MDG.
I still admire her anyway. She looks very independent, outgoing and fun in her Facebook photos.
Kudos to you Jean!
Anyway, Su Ann, whatever it is I think you write better than most blogs I have read. Keep up the good work!