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*salute!*
haha i think we're going there tonight too
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And even though the Merdeka Celebration is huge here, it means nothing to me. Being a Malaysian, I can only acknowledge the good food, good shopping and certainly the love I've been getting back and home. And freedom, yes. While people think that coming over to a new place is freedom from parents, it makes me feel as if my life is constricted. Because things are so new around you, you just don't know what to do. Even though I'm like 6 months here, sometimes, I find myself lost. And homesick.
You guys should do pot luck or something. :D
You shouldn't worry about sugarcoating anything. No system is perfect and each has their flaws with different goals in mind. Such oppressive teaching methods are not only conducted in Malaysia, most Asian countries do too with one objective in mind: teach the students the designated syllabus and have them pass with flying colours. Where got time to answer so many questions that aren't even in the exam lah!
This is why I love humanities; there is no right or wrong answer, haha! (Great for exams)
but hey, there’s no perfect system or nation in the world we live in. The classical Rome is considered as the most advanced civilization in its time. Public forum, proper place to poop, irrigation and all the magistrates but yet corruption and political killings were norms. Up north the Rome empire is this so called barbaric, uncivilized Germania tribes. They didn’t have proper rules or hierarchical class system and lived a nomadic life. But they were a tight knitted bunch and would fight to the death to protect their community.
To each of its own, I guess. I’m sure the people you shared your experiences with know the relative existence of the other side of the stories. :)
Well, it is just sad to know how we're brought up and not able to speak our mind. Not only in school, but i totally feel it too even inworking life. My company encourages us to challenge our managers and bring out new ideas and it is people like me who often talk too much and challenge the managers. You can see some of them actually dont like it and they kinda, "branded" me. Though most of the expats and some managers who graduated overseas find no problem with that, but at the end of the day, i guess, this culture is not 100% adapted in Malaysian or should i say ,Asian culture yet.
Asian culture teach us to be polite and listen to the elders. And not, when our parents ask us to do something, we will challenge/fight back twice what they say, which often happen with kids nowadays. So i think its not that bad if we dont speak up most of the time. We talk and challenge when the time is right and any given platform (debate). I know you're a smart and articulate person, so dont get intimidated by them. Explain to them our values and culture. Dat doesnt make you stupid or weird, dat gives you more character as a person.
i just wanted to let you know i added you on facebook so you won't be surprised XD
- hong
anyway, yeah screw the Italians are food experts or French cuisine is exquisite etc.. the best food is always food from home! XD
treasure what you have
but no matter what, malaysia will still be the country we love, right?? =)
and now that i'm in university and the lecturers are expected us to learn "the adult way". with critical thinking and problem based learning and learning through seeing and tagging along and doing. and then when we don't give them the results they had expected, they blame us for being not proavtive enough. sometimes i just want to tell them, the blame is not entirely on us, look at how we were brought up by the system.
anyway, yea, am glad you're happy there :)
ohh, and the education system, but nvm then we m'sians are quick learners after all, hope you are doing fine there su ann!
I miss you pinkypau =(
anyway, tis pretty true about the education system though. But i guess its just an asian thing. Thats why Westerners can do things more efficiently and achieve understanding much faster however grounded knowledge is sometimes lacking. Asians can memorise better :P Sooo if u want a workforce that is good at doing something in a certain way, hire asians! If u want a workforce that is more off handle, hire westerners!
FOOOOOOOOOOD
and its great that you have now found a restaurant that serves Malaysian food. good for you.
and hey, i saw us in this month's issue of Seventeen magazine.
the way we were taught to behave in school is so different from what colleges and universities demand that it's no wonder we emerge from secondary school feeling totally confused.
i stepped into medical school after 13 years of being told what to do, only to find that now i am expected to question and debate and think and reason. my colleagues and i are constantly berated for our lack of initiative and our "take all, give none" attitude in learning. we take what the lecturers say as truth and we wait for them to teach, when in reality we should be developing a far more independent way of learning.
what sucks most is that those 13 years have caused so much damage that some of us think it's our RIGHT to be spoon-fed, to be guided so strictly that there's no room for questioning.
i wish we were encouraged from an early age to be participants and not sponges. it would make growing up and stepping out into the real world less of a shock.
it's never too late to better yourselves, of course. but an early start can't possibly be of any harm.
anyway, i love malaysia too. i am ridiculously optimistic about what malaysia has to offer, even if i am less than enthusiastic about the politics and economy at present. perhaps it's true that our generation will be the one to rise up and take responsibility for this country. we shall see in 20yrs time!
What Li Shun said is very correct... A decent amount of people who went abroad to expand their minds, only to return with a narrower view of their country of origin is a very very sad case. With all due respect, I really do understand where they are coming from but my own experience abroad seemed to make me love Malaysia even more.
I grow up in an environment where its the usual of everyone complaining about Malaysia: education not good la, Malay rights arguments la, bad infrastructures la, even worse public transports la etc. etc. the usual stuff... When I got a chance to live in Japan for a year - the so called most advanced Asian country and definitely the most technologically advanced in the world - I was thinking that maybe I might end up hating Malaysia even more... But I guess the reversed happened.
The conflicts you encountered in NYC Sue Ann, I had the same when I was in Japan. What do I tell them? Which part of Malaysia do I show them? Which is the right thing to do?
But at the end of the day, I think the small patriotic part inside my heart took over (hey, maybe those every morning singing of Negaraku in government school really did help k...)... I did not lie or sugarcoat anything I said in Japan. I told the truth, and never withheld facts... If it is bad, I tell them so. If it is good, I will beam with pride when I talk about them.
My frequent introduction to foreigners made me realized that: So what if we are nasty drivers on the roads? We are an even better host for tourist and visitors to our humble abode! So what if we have cut-throat exorbitant taxi-drivers? We have a hundred more Malaysian citizens who are more then willing to give a helping hand and other taxi-drivers who are more then proud to give free tours around the town! Politics? Well, I do not know much about it but I do my best to tell them what is not correctly portrayed by the west and things they did not get to read about...
In the end, I realized one thing. Whatever the shortcomings Malaysia have... It is still Malaysia. A place we called home since young. And regardless of how much and how many times I told myself that I prefer other countries over Malaysia when things don't go right or when I gape in awe at other countries' achievements... I HATE to admit it... But I am actually quite proud to me a Malaysian...
P/s: Wonder if anybody else felt the same after going abroad... =.=
and u are right..there is no place like home...=))
Maybe different schools have different methods. I'm from Kuching by the way.
I'm stuck in UAE now. Damn sad okay... don't EVER come here during puasa month. U aren't allowed to be seen smoking, drinking or eating in public.
Just oni this morning I was given warning to be seen 'carrying a cup of coffee' in public.
Stupid anot u tell me?
but the good news is...it's a phase we all go through. some move on and adapt pretty fast, but some just flounder and can't wait to get out of their 'adopted' culture! honestly, i don't think you'll have any problems adjusting and blending in... in fact, in no time you'll be quoting from American authors, and talking about American politics and be boiled over if and when the Yankees win the World Series again!
my advice is...go ahead...mix with the locals and meet as many friends as possible, learn up their culture, understand the people, love their lives! you don't have to worry about losing our Malaysian-ness...we never will! in such a globalized world, we have everything at our doorsteps!!! look...who would have guessed that you could have pure 'gula melaka' at a restaurant in NYC!!!! now that's globalization!!!
cheer up! embrace your new 'adopted culture' - love it, despise it... who cares - at the end of the day you and I, we are Malaysians, always have and always will be...wherever we go! what's unique is that we Malaysians have learnt to adapt to our environments and survive! go and spread our 'lah' to the world!
we are malaysia, and malaysia is us. paint a good picture about malaysia, but color it with truths and facts. sugarcoated if necessary.
malaysian education sucks. it oppresses critical thinking and makes students become good slaves. i still remember we HAD to memorized essays to pass our primary skol exams....wtf?
most cab drivers are s-holes. there are certainly some ethical ones, but they are pretty rare. hey, i have a fren who's father is a cab driver, i had no qualms in telling her my opinion about malaysia's cabbies.
wow....all the food look damn nice lor, except for the charkueytiao (it looks oily and fried under low heat). kangkong belacan is one of my mostest favoritest vege dish also. i think my mom 'used' to make the most kick-ass kangkong belacan ever. now she doesnt flavor her dishes as much due to health concerns. sigh. but still mom's the best.
the malaysian meal must have cost a bomb!!!!
you make a good ambassador of malaysia. :)
M'sia was formed on 16th sept 1963,with Sarawak,Sabah,Malaya and Singapura(seceded 1965)
i'm really happy to knw someone that shares my feelings..u knw..its really rare to find non-bumis that love their country..and especially ppl of the younger generation =) thank u for lettin me knw that i'm not alone! hahha...anyway..msia boleh! hahah
do take care of yourself and can't wait to read more of your adventure in NY! =)
Cassie
it's a nice post eh...im sure u'll find the familiarity and comfort in NY as well,mayb a lil diff from msia. =)
btw, this is the may tht happened to bumped into u at klcc with pinky.not sure if u remember me.lol. =)
it is nice to feel some love for Malaysia after what has been going on. well, i still do love Malaysia of course but sometimes, i just wonder like you do...
anyways, HAPPY MERDEKA DAY and lucky you!
the food looks damn awesome!
i still have yet to find good nasi lemak in sydney. sigh.
Oh... and Chinatown in NY has a few M'sian restaurant I heard, go check them out.
I also had the same problem with the education system when I came here, I hate holding training here it's so boring because no one asks questions, no one challenges me..
It's just me talking endlessly....and praying for reciprocation occasionally, my only respite is when there is a westerner in the training sadly.
At least you'll get a feeling of how I feel in Malaysia, I'm also not just me, I'm also white and British.
That looks like some wicked authentic Malaysian food too, not the usual trash sold abroad.
anyways. kangkung belacan looked good! i wannttt...
Unfortunately, no one to speak Manglish to here and there are just some words which doesn't bring the same meaning/impact in English (for me, at least)
:)
Malaysia=home
Can't wait for CNY!
and how many got potential to play mahjong? hahaha.. ok.ok..i'm seriously kidding...i know that i got no hope of converting you. :(
anyway, i am sure you will get used to life in NYC. it is not that bad... its pretty easy to get around if you know the subway. but! do ask for a brochure at the counter and understand how the subway works.
if you need more help! can always contact me.. or i can have some friends in NY or NYU help you out....
hmm.. banana leaf is pretty yummy in philly and it is just a block from my buddies place who works for the philly fed reserve. well, hope you have a fun time in NYC, and remember to get some warm clothing! its going to freeze soon... my advice is to get a really good ski jacket from north face, burton, spyder or columbia... trust me!! you will be using it for the next 4 yrs you are here.
Wow, you are lucky to be able to indulge Malaysian cuisine in NYC. Here in Orlando FL, there isn't ONE restaurant!!! Sigh, how i miss my motherland food. Thank god i know how to make sambal. And there is a Chinese market here where i get my chinese vege and supplies. Luck is not all that bad I guess ;)
First off, to all your classmates from .us who believe that the .us education system inculcates in the students an attitude of always questioning. This is *very* *very* wrong. You need to go and read more - quite a few Americans actually believe that the education system here is used to train the students to be sheep so that the populace is easier to control. I offer the following as an anecdote: http://crankylitprof.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/p...
My second disagreement with you is about the .my school system. I went to Methodist Primary School, the Sekolah Menengah Damansara Jaya, then Sekolah Menengah SEA Park for Form 6. While there were instances of teachers not being teachers - for example, in Standard 2, we were asked to come up with 10 synonyms for 10 words. Being a smart aleck, I pulled out my father's thesaurus and found the longest word for each of the 10. I was graded 0/10, and told off in class that I should not lie and make up words if I wasn't going to do my homework. The one example the teacher pulled out - jail. My synonym was penitentiary. Not a very good teacher. However, there were other teachers in my primary school that more than made up for her (and really, she wasn't that bad, from what I remember, she was pretty good - she just didn't know any of the 10 words I had pulled out, apparently).
However, in my secondary school, I was exposed to quite a few good teachers. Mrs. Tan, my math teacher was very good, and would entertain questions, and check to make sure we really understood her lessons. My classmates and I would go to her after class to get more explanations or for help with homework. Well, my classmates more than me, I was really good with math in those days :) Similarly, my science teachers were very good. Of course, all the good teachers had to be balanced out by a teacher who said I was lying simply because I pulled out M$20 from various hidden places in my school bag (that the prefects couldn't find during a schoolwide search for people bringing more than M$4 to school). I have no idea what I was lying about - she asked me to go find my money, and I did, and I took it to her. WTF was I lying about?
In my Form 6 days, we had some very good teachers, some mediocre teachers and a couple of... oh well. Mrs... oh crap, I have forgotten her name... Au Yang I believe, our Physics teacher, was very good. She encouraged discussions during class. The other chatterbox in the class and I would start up discussions that could last half a class. He and I would find and ask each other weird questions - if the moon only goes around the earth once a day, why do we have high tides twice a day?! If the volume control on a radio is actually a rheostat, does playing a song at low volume use less electricity than at high volume? How much electricity is lost through the volume control? Mrs. Au Yang would scribble equations on the board and work it through with us.
Even the stereotypical write on board and teach from notes chemistry teacher would entertain questions from us, and every once in a while would make sure we really understood difficult parts and talk to us.
Was this all because we were in Form 6, and was expected to be more independent and all that? Part of that may be in play. But I had the same experience during my primary school and secondary school days. Was I just extremely lucky in getting to a good school?
So, I believe part of that "spoonfeed" attitude may be something that the students thought they should do, and it becomes part of their personality, whereas, for some reason, the batch of students I grew up with had very strong personalities (bunch of Mensans and other over achievers).
I should note that years after I left school, when I met with my teachers, they still thought fondly of my year, both at SMDJ and SM SEA Park, saying that we were the best and brightest year. Other years may have had better results than we did at SPM, but were only "book smart". So, was my batch just unusual? I don't think so, I've met some very smart people from other schools/years.
I've been thinking a bit more about that bit. I think one of the factors may be that the teachers have a set syllabus, and they worry about completing their syllabus. There were a few times when we did not finish the syllabus for a particular class, due to whatever reasons. If you have discussions that take up half the class, that time must be made up somewhere else. Hence, we also had a lot of discussions out side of class. And my classmates and I were generally tight (oh boy, we would go through SS2 catching rats at night for our bio dissection class, or go to the lake and go toad hunting. We found out that toads would squirt what looks like pee if they get really frightened, and a lot of fun was had trying to get your toad to squirt on someone else! :)) so discussions took place in class, after class, and outside of class. Some of us also met up for study groups.
“classroom culture in our respective countries” quote pinkpau
so why you pick on usa?
“My second disagreement with you is about the .my school system…”quote Tai
i reread the post thrice, I am pretty sure nobody said anything abt ur sch system?
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Maybe because we were such chatterboxes in class, the "keep it quiet" atmosphere didn't affect us?
General student opinion of other students who ask a lot of questions is generally relief as in, less actual lecturing time, or annoyance, for the same reason. But these attitudes do still vary depending on the professor/student, some professors, even in America, till prefer the 'shut up and listen' type of attitude that is 'practised in Asia'.
I used to spend a lot of time in NYC when my boyfriend used to live there. We lived in Soho and ate there a lot cause it was cheap and reminded me of home.
Good luck in NYC. You'll love it in no time.
hope S'wak & S'bah MP fight for this,because for so long ignored by malayan.
read this;//mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/12095/84/
SarawakPatriotic
Thailand's currently under martial law..
States in msia under PKR gvnence having public hol on 16 sep..
Eye on m'sia will be relocated to malacca soon..
So there u have it just in case u haven't checked today's asian news since ur alllllll the way there :P
How's class 2day?
haih nvm reply again when i come back ok!
I mean I was born in the US and I lived my whole life here, but when I lived in Asia I loved it as well and I still miss it. Your discussions of Malaysia have really incited a desire in me to visit Malaysia even though you talk about the good and the bad of Malaysia (i.e. corruption, everything). So don't worry about sugarcoating anything, share with them your love for your country and they will come to see it as you see it - a wonderful place that produces wonderful people.
then again, there must be at least 1 banana leaf restaurant in every city....
i spent my merdeka being sick....wtf
about the image you present of malaysia to the world, i feel that you should speak on what you think is the true situation here (how our politics suck etc) but make it clear through like some disclaimer or smth that we're all TOTALLY patriotic and cinta malaysiaku though some aspects of it suck SO much. things don't have to be perfect to be loved. haha malaysia boleh! have fun in nyc and don't forget your blog readers okay!
But if there is no good or if you had a different history back home, would you have turned out the way you are now?
I guess the way we could share with others is to share about what we think are objective answers. We tell the issues from various angles. For example, I would be telling them on why this policy is in place, say affirmative action. Why we need it? How is the reaction from each group etc? Of course, there might be stereotyping.
Enjoy! And make full use of your life there!!!
keep it up!
you appreciate things more when they're gone or far away.
Nice post/. :-D